Those are you best bets. If you're after a crop or a quirt, you can likely get a nice one for a decent price at a tack shop. However, if you're after a full-blown Indiana Jones bullwhip, I'd look to ebay--hubby just picked up a very nice one (brand new, hand braided) on ebay for a MUCH better price than he'd have paid at the local supply stop (we checked). One thing about ebay--steer clear of any whip touted as a "B&D" or "BDSM" whip--price goes from four to fourteen bucks in a flash with the addition of those little letters, though you aren't getting anything better or nicer.

Kallie