Removing underage stories

[lex ludite]

Now it's "kids" we're protecting, is it! Who put you in charge? For the record, until a group of whiners got to the original owner of this site, his rules, which were followed by the great majority of those submitting stories, clearly stated that no character could be less than 13. That's thirteen, ten plus three in case you have difficulty with higher math! For your information this 18 year old "rule" fell out of the sky less than three months ago, shortly before Jinn bailed on the site. My guess is that he got a bit nervous about what was coming down from the Feds. The funny thing is that Gonzales hasn't said a word about underage anything! He's however hot and bothered by any reference to bodily functions, bestiality and sadomasochism, which puts this site and your narrow interests squarely in his sights. Here's something else to put in your opium pipe and smoke, today's kids are doing lots of things that would probably curl your little toes when it comes to doing the nasty. The age of consent is different for different countries, look it up, it might cause you to use your mind. I even think that the age of "consent" in some of the more backward portions of the USA is well below 18. I also know that until four or five years ago in Japan there was no such thing as "age of consent", yet it was forbidden to show female genitals, no matter what the publication. You figure that one out! In many Central American countries they haven't the foggiest when it comes to age of consent. Don't start whining that I'm a pedophile, or support such activities; that's pure nonsense! Tiger or his boss is going to do what he wants to do. That is his right. Based on what I'm seeing and hearing from what is at best a vocal minority, the issue about underage stories has been settled, so be it. However this is but the nose of the camel under the site's tent. I stand by my prediction that at the rate things are going, this site won't be worth the powder to blow it to hell in another year. For me personally, it's perhaps a blessing, since I've hit a dry spell that is probably going to become permanent. Believe it or not, it has been suggested by an acquaintance that I should consider writing children's stories, now that I can produce a coherent sentence. Wouldn't that be an interesting twist of fate!

[Spitman]

Who put you in charge?

Nobody. I don't have to be in charge, to have the same right to express my opinion as anybody else, including you. And the site owner can disregard your opinion, or mine. That is his prerogative.

As far as the age of consent is concerned, I am well aware that standards vary in different countries, but age is one thing, and consent is another. It may be legally true that there can be no consent below a certain age, but the way I look at it, material where there is a consenting theme involving a person who has at least the appearance of being sexually mature, is a very different matter from material that involves beating up and raping a kid who is obviously not consenting, and who is treated simply like trash, like 13 year old Lucy in Pagan's story 'Every Cinderelle Has Her Day'. If you think this deserves defending, I am at a loss to know why.

What determines whether a site like this is worth 'the powder', as you say, is the quality of the material in it. It's a no brainer that the overall quality will improve without stuff like that.

[Alex Bragi]

Lex,

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and the fact that one person's differs from another doesn't necessarily make them a 'whiner'.

Of course, you're not a pedophile (or infantophile) because you support those kinds of stories. Reading or writing them is, in my opinion, a completley different matter. The two are poles appart. Regardless of my stance on the issue, I have clear understanding of that.

As anyone into the lifestyle knows, safe, sane, and consensual are the three pillars of bdsm. Stories of prebubescents being abducted, tortured and raped, again in my opinion, just simply aren't suitable for a bdsm site. I think they should have been flagged from the beginning, but then, it's not my site.

You writing children's stories? Why is it so odd? Over the years many authors have chosen to write in totally different genres. If you do choose that path, I wish you well with it.

[lex ludite]

Alex
This is the second time I have tried to respond to your comments. We don't seem to be talking about the same topic. I'm complaining about this unrealistic decree about all characters having to be 18 in sexual situations. I'm not talking about prepubescents at all. The latest edict from Rabbit1 would seem to suport my position. Support for my point can be found by going to the following site: http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

[Rabbit1]

Alex
This is the second time I have tried to respond to your comments. We don't seem to be talking about the same topic. I'm complaining about this unrealistic decree about all characters having to be 18 in sexual situations. I'm not talking about prepubescents at all. The latest edict from Rabbit1 would seem to suport my position. Support for my point can be found by going to the following site: http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

I am supporting no ones point of view ---I am just trying to reach a compromise that we all can agree on---so we can just get back to reading and writting stories--instead of trying to change each others minds on a issue ----Each person has a valid opinion---and everyone can come up with some kind of support for their opinion---

I would just like to put this issue behind us and move forward