and I agree quietkarin and as in all my posts, it immediately gets taken to the extreme - I'm just saying that the prevalent view is of the harsh leather clad side - even among these boards - of course as in Everything about this lifestyle I would think it goes without saying - We each derive our own compilation - I get it!!! It's the answer to Every question on here isn't it - We are individual, We are unique, Only us can be us and on.....

But you can't tell me this isn't the main view, even among us - so maybe for once we can put the static answer away and come up with something else?

Is it just a fetish - Is it a statement to shock - Is is our 'brand' perhaps - something must attribute to this no?