Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
annie - So... why does it have to be the sub that must support the Dom?
Because the sub has submittied to the will of the Dom not the other way round. True, he is duty bound to protect but protect and support are not the same. Yes support in the sense of wellbeing but not in the sense of "support my point of view".
We will always disagree on that point then. If i wanted to only be protected i'd get a doberman or pitbull. I can submitt my will... that doesn't mean i have to submit and CHANGE my values or beliefs. At that point I am no longer me... and not happy, so there would be no point to being in that relationship.

annie - i don't agree with my husband's take on a few political issues but i choose careully when to fight that battle and when to let it rest.
The Ds model is not a equal rights democracy. If a sub is choosing when to fight and when not to then she has not given over decision making to the Dom (notwithstanding agreed limits) and is retaining free will and self determination.
There is a difference between decision making and "free will/self determination"... after all each day my free well and self determination is what makes it possible for me to choose to give over decision making to someone else. And i have been told more then once now that there is no subbie bill of rights. But, if i am not even allowed to voice the differences/concerns then once again... there is no point in that relationship for me.

annie - The point, i believe, is what makes a sub a "true" sub?
Submitting completely to the will and authority of the dom within the boundaries of any mutually agreed limits.
And i do that every day without loosing my beliefs in the process. Submitting to the will and authority doesn't mean becoming a mindless robot who does nothing but say "yes Sir/no Sir." Once again, there would be no point in the relationship for me if that was what was expected.