Gorean Philosophies

[Kuskovian]

"So, to start some questions specifically about the Gorean lifestyle as it's actually applied: From what I remember of what I read, which I may have misinterpreted, a Gorean relationship is quite formal, is this so? And, if so, what sort of adjustments do you make in public? Also, is the formality full-time in private? " By:Ragoczy

" Like Racogzy, I'm interested in hearing about how Gorean practices and beliefs are incorporated. Truth be told, it's because the ways in which you incorporate it in your life, Denuseri, seem different than much of what I've read, even on Gorean boards. Often I've encountered too much of the alternate-universe-that-doesn't-really-exist for me and I've had a hard time getting past it." By:Orchidsoul

Thankyou for expressing an intrest in learning as opposed to critisizing. It is refreshing for a change and apreciated.

Now to answer your questions:

It is as formal or as in-formal as the desires of the the inividuals involved want it to be.

The first rule between us is however "RESPECT" without that we have nothing. I respect her by holding dominion over her in a manner by which she may be proud and thrive in the joy and freedom she recieves in submission. She accordingly respects me by being pleasing in all that I require of her, (even testing my will on occasion is a sign of respect, as it shows that she cares for us not to slip into complacency) even when not in my presence.

In our relationship it varies depending on the situation. We laugh and share together (just like many instances depected in the books between couples) and just like any other human being does in any relationship vanilla or otherwise. (You would never guess just runing into us on the street that we are any different from any one else). Or that at snap of my fingers she would gladely drop to her knees).

I do generally keep her under a stricter level of disipline than that which most submissives would be comfortable with (see the Gorean quote on "Love slaves" posted in the "being Kajira" thread) but also I am much more understanding than most would believe a dominant ever should be.

It is not; however recomended that she or anyone ever mistake any apparent leniancy on my part as a weakness, it stems instead from my own self confidence that she has been well trainned under my quirt and honnors the trust and love we have placed with each other. If I was weak or didn't keep her under a tighter level of control than most; she would devour me whole, and I would expect her to do so with all the vengence of a wrathful woman scorned becuase she was not given the dominance over her life she craved.



Those of us that actually practice in real life what we preach and follow the true "spirit" of what Norman has written; are all too often miss-associated with the fanatics and posers that have so obviously not read the books (or at least didn't really understand them), so we have a tendency to keep to our own. Which is why you don't often encounter us.

All while being attacked directly or indirectly by the overzealous factions that claim to be "the only real Goreans" and misrepresented by those that think running around in a vidieo game makes them "Gorean". One group being crazy and the other fools, take your pick.

And then thier are the "anti-goreans" who spend a majority of thier time expounding sopphist rehtoric against anything about "Goreans" they fear that threatens thier world view over and over in an attempt to keep it confined and or censored; becuase they do not really wish to understand the broader picture involved. They all too often mask thier attacks under the guise of indirect slander and false pre-tense by slyly critiequeing the books instead of the practicioners of the books ways.

Just like the common theme presented by those claiming to support the troops but not what the troops are fighting for which: is indeed tantamont to saying "your full of crap for believeing what you do".

[damyanti]

Just like the common theme presented by those claiming to support the troops but not what the troops are fighting for which: is indeed tantamont to saying "your full of crap for believeing what you do".[/B][/COLOR]

Now, did you really have to muddy the thread with this comment...whatever it means,...because now I don't understand what you wanted to say with it at all. I respect soldiers who follow their chain of command, I respect their day to day missions in trying to maintain some order in a chaos that they have not created or even asked to be sent to clean up...they are merely trying to do the best they can and live up to their own code of honor. I can respect that, and I do. But there is no way I will ever condone the reason they were sent on a non-existent mission fabricated do to the fact that Georgie boy has a little willy. That man has no honor, he is a retard, thats not a personal opinion...let him take an IQ test. Now I fully support opportunities for mentally challenged people,...but I draw the line at giving them access to nuclear codes.
My apologies for abusing the thread, but you opened it up.


On thread:

I haven't read the books, they are a little hard to come by in my little corner of the world, (but I am keeping my eyes open, lol)...unless his style of writing is really bad, from what I have studied of the books and Norman I think I would like them. I doubt I would make it a lifestyle philosophy, but I would probably take bits and pieces from it...just as I do from anything I read.

I think the issue here is some people take things too seriously (crazed Goreans and those calling the books misogynistic)...from what I have seen Denuseri and Kuskovian make a really shining example of how to do the whole thing in SSC and loving manner.

My specific question is...whats the difference between kajira and ("ordinary") bdsm slave/submissive...except for a few exotic names, some extra positions (and imaginative sf role play, for some)...I really don't see what the big deal is and how its different from the rest of the bdsm...

I am a big proponent of this thing we do being a private thing between two (or more, if thats you thing, lol) people actively involved in a relationship.

Writers write and take inspiration in different ways and from different sources...who knows what Mr. Norman was thinking when he was writing a book...and frankly who cares. A person who is a misogynistic ass***e will find confirmation for his beliefs anywhere he wants...from Bible, through the fact that the sky is blue to supermarket discount pamphlet, lol.

There is no right or wrong...different things work for different people...it is whatever you make it to be, it is whatever you need it to be.