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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post

    Sadly what the only thing your comments (and those of too many others)have explained to me is that no ammount of logic or reason will convince a certian segment of the populace that they are being screwed over bigtime like sheep to slaughter. That when they believe (with an ironically religious like zealotry) the spew that the anti-gun lobby and thier partners in crime have been diligently spoon feeding them (like so many comunion waffers) they are really kneeling at the altar of a false utopian god. A god who's sole purpose is to eventually usher in the tyranny of a so called socialist totalitarian regime by cowing the people and robbing them of thier natural right to defend themselves were by ignorace or design.
    I would be very careful about making personal attacks in the thread, it is frowned upon here. And your rabid attack of gun-control proponents simply serves to symbolize the stereotypes of those against ANY kind of gun control.

    MMI has said that the gun-control he sees is not to the degree that you are predicting, and most gun-control advocates do not adhere to. Mongering fear is "the spew" that the NRA have been 'spoon-feeding' to their members and their lobbyists for years. And I need to ask a question, "Is it criminal to want gun control?" I wonder when that law came into being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgarold View Post
    MMI has said that the gun-control he sees is not to the degree that you are predicting, and most gun-control advocates do not adhere to. Mongering fear is "the spew" that the NRA have been 'spoon-feeding' to their members and their lobbyists for years. And I need to ask a question, "Is it criminal to want gun control?" I wonder when that law came into being.
    No, it is not criminal to want real gun control, as opposed to actually banning guns for all but a very select few, as proposed by MMI. Gun control means just that: controlling who can own firearms. But limiting it to only the military, some police and a few farmers is not control, but banning. That leaves the average citizen without any means of self defense other than their hands and edged weapons. And from articles I've seen, in England it is illegal even to use those. Self defense, it seems, is against the law there.
    One has to remember that any law, whether to ban weapons or to prohibit jaywalking, are only effective when people obey them. Criminals, by definition, do not worry about breaking the law. They do it as a matter of course. So believing that banning guns will result in eliminating those weapons which criminals have, or may have, is naive at best. All that does is reassure the criminals that their victims are unlikely to have any means of protecting themselves, thereby making it easier, and safer, for the criminals to do their things.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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