Advice to a submissive on proper attitude and thinking.

[Kellie]

This raises a valid point for discussion.

As a submissive, at what point do you stop being "honored by such privilages" when the way your Master/Mistress teaches has become abusive? (Understanding each relationship has it's own set of perameters.)

I know that what I deem as abusive differs from another's stand point.
Given that, personal safety is an absolute must, be it physical, mental or emotional. To blindly accept and be "honored" by treatment that is less than acceptable by the limits established, because Master/Mistress has had a bad day or decides for whatever personal gain, to abuse those limits is incomprehensible.
They are in a position of power. With that power comes a great responsibility. Neglecting or abusing that power does not make a good Master/Mistress/s relationship ever.

This is only my opinion.

And that's where the different levels come in to in my opinion. I look at it as a subs job to please their master how their master sees fit. So if a master or mistress is having a bad day and wants to take it out on their sub with a can or whatever they choose I feel its good since its making them happy. But u have to trust that your master or mistress will always follow the basic rules such as no permanent damage. Of course I love pain so my opinon may be looked at different. My body feels like sweet sensitive tasks are torture and abusive

[Ozme52]

I agree with you that personal safety is a must. i have been honest with my Master about what i need from Him and in turn, He was honest with me about what He needed from me. W/we built our relationship out of that honesty, which is why i am comfortable trusting him and not having a safeword. If He were ever to break my trust and intentionally hurt me in ways that W/we haven't discussed, it would break our contract and end our relationship. I think it's important to base any relationship, but especially a Master/sub/slave relationship, on trust and honesty. At least for me, as a collared slave, knowing W/we had that discussion, it is now very easy to submit to my Master, and He in turn has accepted this great responsibility.

And that's where the different levels come in to in my opinion. I look at it as a subs job to please their master how their master sees fit. So if a master or mistress is having a bad day and wants to take it out on their sub with a can or whatever they choose I feel its good since its making them happy. But u have to trust that your master or mistress will always follow the basic rules such as no permanent damage. Of course I love pain so my opinon may be looked at different. My body feels like sweet sensitive tasks are torture and abusive

I guess my point is that verbal conversations can only set (both of) your perceived limits and a safeword allows you both to push your perceptions.

Think about it.